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Post by Ajahli on Apr 16, 2012 22:31:28 GMT -5
Okay so, I was inspired by a conversation with Myst from last night and I thought it would be a cool idea to start a thread (I can even make a whole other forum topic if need be, but I figured start small) where if you need advice or help with your art or something you are working on, then you can post here and everyone can offer their input! :3
I try really hard to give good advice, and of course you guys are ALWAYS welcome to PM or e-mail or IM me and ask me things, but I thought since all of us are artists (for now) maybe there is something someone else can think of, a technique, or a program, or a trick or something, to add to the mix!
So, I hope this will be helpful somehow~
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Post by punkusjr on Apr 16, 2012 22:59:01 GMT -5
Hehehe, when I get around to coloring I'll have alot of questions. But for now, what's a good way to make the allusion of the third dimension?
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Post by mystmyst on Apr 16, 2012 23:11:31 GMT -5
I'm an inspiration !
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Post by Ajahli on Apr 16, 2012 23:12:19 GMT -5
allusion of the third dimension 83c oh my~ UHH... Well for starters, I'm not really THAT great at it. I took a "perspective of the body" class in college for drawing comics and the one day they actually TAUGHT us how to draw characters that way I was sick and missed it LOL~ But the one thing I guess I would suggest is to practice drawing your characters at different angles. (you do mean in terms of characters, right? or no...). Using a lot of reference is okay too. Drawing a friend or looking in a mirror or looking up artists on DA who have stock accounts dedicated to poses and things. I actually just found this on DA too: fav.me/d4v4hm6and as much as some artists complain about it, I do look at how my favorite manga artists draw things too. Because I know that not everyone is perfect but there is something in the way they draw it that works, and sometimes I doodle and practice on my own to see if I can pull it off -edited because i forgot the last part
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Post by punkusjr on Apr 16, 2012 23:15:44 GMT -5
That seems helpful. I'm such a noob =P
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Post by Ajahli on Apr 16, 2012 23:23:35 GMT -5
pfff it's okay xD UNDER MY TUTELAGE, YOU WILL SURPASS THE NEWBISHNESS!
Or at least your drive to destroy small innocent planets may steadily grow i dunno which one...
Oh wait I mean your drive to draw more things. AHAHAHA.....
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Post by punkusjr on Apr 16, 2012 23:28:04 GMT -5
Uhhhh, my drive to destroy planets is quite large atm. However a drive to draw more than cat girls might be good. ^_~
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Post by Ajahli on Apr 16, 2012 23:30:30 GMT -5
Well there ya go! LOL~ YES. AWESOME.
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Post by scribblingninja on Apr 17, 2012 19:42:10 GMT -5
Well, if anybody wants to offer any advice on this, please do~ I know that her left leg is too thin, and her right is too short, and the hand is just wrong somehow. I'm not really sure how to fix it though. : / I guess I'll sleep on it and see how it looks tomorrow.
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Post by punkusjr on Apr 17, 2012 21:11:12 GMT -5
Maybe the hand is to long? Idk, but I see what you mean. As to how to fix it, me telling you would be like a homeless man telling someone how to invest in stocks.
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Post by Ajahli on Apr 17, 2012 21:32:31 GMT -5
Hmm okay well I am not the queen of anatomy or anything. I think the hand does look a bit long I guess? but I think maybe it's that the part of her arm looks too short? Like the hand kind of works into it (I guess because she is wearing gloves and they do they kind of fluff out from the wrists) and it looks like the hand is long and the arm is short.
Does that make sense? probably not.
I always tend to draw my hands too small or too big. One of my teachers in school said your hand is supposed to be able to cover your whole face but when I try to be all ACCURATE my characters looks like big handed monkeys.
but yeah as for how to fix it, maybeeee slim down the part of the wrist that joins on the arm and make the arm a bit longer? And the leg actually looked okay to me, I think but hopefully when you sleep on it a bit and take a look at it, you'll be able to look at it fresh and tweak and stuff.
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Post by punkusjr on Apr 17, 2012 22:00:29 GMT -5
Good luck Ninja!
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Post by scribblingninja on Apr 18, 2012 10:11:00 GMT -5
Hmm okay well I am not the queen of anatomy or anything. I think the hand does look a bit long I guess? but I think maybe it's that the part of her arm looks too short? Like the hand kind of works into it (I guess because she is wearing gloves and they do they kind of fluff out from the wrists) and it looks like the hand is long and the arm is short. Does that make sense? probably not. I always tend to draw my hands too small or too big. One of my teachers in school said your hand is supposed to be able to cover your whole face but when I try to be all ACCURATE my characters looks like big handed monkeys. ROFL, I have the same problem, probably because, being mainly manga-influenced, my heads are too big in the first place. (Thanks for that, Digimon) >.> When your art teacher says to learn life-drawing, she ain't kidding folks~ Most of the time my characters are in the kind of poses that actually benefit from bigger hands and feet anyway. And yea, basically her hand was too long. I'm boxing the whole thing out so I can make another sketch layer.
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Post by Rinabean on Apr 18, 2012 12:38:01 GMT -5
I wanna help too! @punkus: To make an illusion of 3-d, shading REALLY helps. One of the things that they shoved down our throat in them college art classes is that shading things in contrasting values really pops the lighter of the surfaces out. In our simple human minds, darker translates to farther away and lighter translates to closer. So if you are not good at perspective, that is a viable route to take. The link that our beloved Lord Ajahli gave you gives an example of that by shading under the chin to pop the chin out instead of make it look like he doesn't have one or has a weird neck lol. scribblingninja: Looks like a new challenger enters the ring! woo Nice to meet you~ Ajahli was right about what she said about the wrist not being small(looking) enough to show a difference between the hand and forarm and the forarm being short and making the other part of the arm look too long. Another noteable thing would be to maybe broaden the shoulders a bit more to balance out some weight between the top and bottom half. It looks really okay and normal in that area but then the bottom half is like "PA-WOW, Badonkadonk all up in your grill" and makes the top half look feeble and weakly in comparison. Which makes her not very credible in her ability to wield whatever arm-weapon she is about to use. And the final thing, balance! Bichez love balance. When drawing a character in a pose that I can physically do(unless it is a real still-life), I WILL do the pose in order to better understand the mechanics of the pose, the weight-distribution, and figure out how i'll mentally map the parts of the body in relation to eachother and the "camera". That is just how I do it because it personally helps me figure it out. It might not work for you, but it is always an option. I tried the pose she is doing and well... It is kind-of hard to balance like that. I mean, if she is a ninja, then I'm sure she can hold it longer, but the way she is holding herself up forces all of her weight-bearing capacity on to her right foot. That kind of thing is all well and dandy, but the rest of her body is in front of and leaning away from that foot and it is not really holding the weight that it was set up to initially hold. In order to save her from falling forward, she would have to move her free left foot or arm to address her body's weight or readjust her pose or position. The easier thing to do would just be change her left leg's position to not be at such a sharp profile and to use some foreshortening instead. :3 The picture does look pretty darn cool otherwise though!~ You're pretty darn good And sorry for the TLDR post. I wasn't expecting to get that far into this :'X
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Post by punkusjr on Apr 18, 2012 14:33:45 GMT -5
Thanks Rina ^o^, I have stuffs to try nows, SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
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